<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555</id><updated>2009-05-02T20:27:04.845-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Preacher Caleb's Blog</title><subtitle type='html'>An effort to cultivate, sow the seed, and throw some water</subtitle><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.calebohara.com/atom.xml'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>60</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-3421709815921988757</id><published>2009-05-02T19:40:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-05-02T20:27:04.866-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lectureship'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='postmodernism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Emerging Church'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church Growth'/><title type='text'>I'm Back</title><content type='html'>OK... So I've been a little behind on blogging (OK... A LOT!). Let's see if I can change that a bit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Next week I will be speaking at the &lt;a href="http://www.wvcoc.org"&gt;West Visalia Lectures&lt;/a&gt;. I'm addressing two topics: Evangelism in a Postmodern World, and Church Growth God's Way. These are two subjects I've spent a lot of time in so I'm excited, and scared, to be asked to present them. So much to say in so little time. The art of preaching is figuring out what not to say.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is the live feed to the lectures below.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object id="utv_o_322919" height="326" width="400" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"&gt;&lt;param value="http://www.ustream.tv/flash/live/663649" name="movie" /&gt;&lt;param value="true" name="allowFullScreen" /&gt;&lt;param value="always" name="allowScriptAccess" /&gt;&lt;param value="transparent" name="wmode" /&gt;&lt;param value="viewcount=true&amp;amp;autoplay=false&amp;amp;brand=embed&amp;amp;" name="flashvars" /&gt;&lt;embed name="utv_e_218829" id="utv_e_209572" flashvars="viewcount=true&amp;amp;autoplay=false&amp;amp;brand=embed&amp;amp;" height="320" width="400" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" wmode="transparent" src="http://www.ustream.tv/flash/live/663649" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sow the Seed,&lt;br /&gt;Caleb&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-3421709815921988757?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/3421709815921988757/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=3421709815921988757' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/3421709815921988757'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/3421709815921988757'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2009/05/im-back.html' title='I&apos;m Back'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-7775726747955795412</id><published>2009-02-04T13:42:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2009-02-04T18:53:34.980-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='FHU'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Open Forum'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='FHU Lectureship'/><title type='text'>Day 3 Open Forum Live Blog</title><content type='html'>******* Most Recent Posts First *******&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Open Forum has ended.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Sabroe asks if it's ok to be entertained by people who are offering up false worship. Ralph completely dodges the question. He says that it's not about what they intend from it, but what you do with it. He diverts by making it a question about being entertained by sinful behavior to something else, thus never answering the question. One thing is for sure, Ralph can dance, I guess that tells us his position on dancing :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Sabroe is making his way to the mic. I'm scared.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Elkins is making his way to the mic.... He talks about MDR. He says that Wallace assumed that in 1 Cor 7:15 that if she departed it was for fornication. He says that sometimes there is background to situations that we don't know about. Ralph says that is true.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- More people at the mic about Christian Contemporary Music. Nothing really of note.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- First guy to the mic has questions about “Christian Music.” He has a lot of questions. Ralph basically says we used to not have a problem with it when they had it on the radio when he was a kid. Now they have a problem with it. The whole problem with Ralph's argument is that he is arguing it's validity based on our inconsistency. When did inconsistency ever prove something was right or wrong?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Is Jesus the Angel of the Lord of the Old Testament. He says that some instances probably.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Someone wants to know if the flood was global or local and if it is a matter of fellowship. He says that it was a global flood and he is sorta vague about the fellowship question.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- How can we help the brethren study the Bible better and not just study topically.  He talks about how when he was a kid they really studied the Bible; his mom made sure. Then he talked about our current culture and wanting everything flashy. He then says we shouldn't dumb things down because our kids today are smart enough. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- The next question has to do with Textual Criticism. He gives a crash course on textual criticism. He then goes into the Textus Receptus and the KJV. He talks about the MSS available were limited when the KJV was put together. He talks about translations some more and he says that he is happy that most people today don't make translations a matter of fellowship.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Next question has to do with the ESV: Good or Bad? Ralph says he likes it and the Holman Christian Standard. He says he lets his students use it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Is it wrong to listen to contemporary Christian worship. Ralph says nope.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-7775726747955795412?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/7775726747955795412/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=7775726747955795412' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/7775726747955795412'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/7775726747955795412'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2009/02/day-3-open-forum-live-blog.html' title='Day 3 Open Forum Live Blog'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-700899374015644861</id><published>2009-02-04T13:27:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-02-04T13:30:31.727-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Steven's Truck</title><content type='html'>We were just informed that Steven Anchondo wrecked his truck. The good news is everyone is ok.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Caleb&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-700899374015644861?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/700899374015644861/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=700899374015644861' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/700899374015644861'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/700899374015644861'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2009/02/stevens-truck.html' title='Steven&apos;s Truck'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-2754997195935041970</id><published>2009-02-04T08:11:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2009-02-04T08:14:51.428-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='FHU'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='FHU Lectureship'/><title type='text'>Freed Hardeman Lectures - Day 3</title><content type='html'>Today we started out with a breakfast sandwich and a soda from a generic grocery store (The food quality is exactly what you are thinking). We got up early today just to make it to hear Jack P. Lewis lecture on Psalm 44. What a man. If only I knew everything he has forgotten I would be well ahead in life. After Jack P. is chapel. No telling what today will bring!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-2754997195935041970?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/2754997195935041970/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=2754997195935041970' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/2754997195935041970'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/2754997195935041970'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2009/02/freed-hardeman-lectures-day-3.html' title='Freed Hardeman Lectures - Day 3'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-6136329203020997441</id><published>2009-02-03T13:32:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-02-03T14:34:03.462-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='FHU'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Open Forum'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='FHU Lectureship'/><title type='text'>FHU Lectures Day 2 Open Forum Live Blog</title><content type='html'>********* Most Recent Posts Listed First ***********&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- The forum is over. Ralph did a good job for the day. Time for dinner.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Ralph goes into a rant on how we are not relevant because we are perceived to be anti-women. He says we are not growing like we are supposed to. What does that have to do with anything? Who gets to declare what makes us relevant or not? Are we really going to use numbers to justify our faithfulness or relevance? If we are merely going to use numbers then we have never been relevant or faithful. Maybe we need to look to a new standard????&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- We had the daily Elkins appearance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Some guy gets up and makes a statement about women take the authority behind the scenes. It was.... ummmm.... Interesting. Ralph moves on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Question about worshiping Jesus and the HS. Ralph says the HS and Jesus are God, therefore they are worthy of worship. I appreciate Ralph mentioning this. This is the core of the question and is often overlooked.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Next guy gets up and gives a mini-sermon. Doesn't really contribute anything new.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Someone comes up to the mic and asks about a woman signing to the deaf. Ralph basically says that it's OK because women are better translators. Ralph says she doesn't have a pulpit she just has a place to stand.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- There are more questions about when a woman can speak, address the congregation, etc.... One of the questions has to do with reading the Bible out loud. He mentions that it is all a matter of authority. He is very vague... which seems to be a theme.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Now a serious of questions on womens role and prayer. Ralph mentions women praying in the home is different than any other setting. The reason being that he learns more about what his family is thinking. The problem is what biblical basis does he get this idea from? You know I feel better when I worship with an instrument, therefore it's ok??? When you get down to it Paul still says “In every place.” This common argument for women leading in the home is funny to me because where is the first place that male spiritual leadership should be upheld? Is it not the home?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Next question has to do with disfellowshipping a congregation. Ralph says that in scripture disfellowship is done to individuals. Then he mentions that in times of change like we are in we sometimes have to withhold our fellowship from congregations and schools.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Next question has to do with singing to Jesus etc.... And baptizing in the name of Jesus. Ralph points out that Jesus was worshipped all through his life. He mentions that Jesus was worshipped in the Revelation. Ralph points out Acts 7:59 and Stephen addressing Jesus in prayer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- The first question has to do with answering the accusation that the Bible just copied from the Epic of Gilgamesh. Ralph gives some of the similarities and differences between the Bible and the Epic of Gilgamesh. Ralph says nobody has been able to prove they are dependent. And the Bible is true.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Ralph opens with the old how much how long joke. When will they end?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Lipe gives the standard intro and says no more discussion on MDR.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- E. Claude Gardner opens with a prayer.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-6136329203020997441?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/6136329203020997441/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=6136329203020997441' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/6136329203020997441'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/6136329203020997441'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2009/02/fhu-lectures-day-2-open-forum-live-blog.html' title='FHU Lectures Day 2 Open Forum Live Blog'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-8064585622438913715</id><published>2009-02-02T13:37:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2009-02-02T14:34:07.727-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='FHU'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Open Forum'/><title type='text'>FHU Open Forum Live Blog</title><content type='html'>***************Most Recent Posts First******************&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Open Forum is over. A mainly uneventful event. Not too bad. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Cliff and I are sick of all the personal stories at the mic. People are not contributing anything to the discussion. Tomorrow's open forum will be Cliff and Caleb hour. We will tell our life stories for one hour. Ralph is being too nice to people. He needs to just cut them off and say this isn't Oprah hour, this is Open Forum.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Earl Edwards take the mic. HE mentions that some promises that are made should never have been made in the first place and should not be fulfilled. He cites Harod telling his wife's daughter that she could have whatever she wanted and she asked for John the Baptists head. This was in response to a question about divorcing someone you should not have been married to in the first place. The question was arguing that you can't tell someone to leave an adulterous relationship because they would be breaking an oath they made to the new mate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- There he is! Elkins rides in on the white horse.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Waiting for Elkins to make his appearance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Some more random comments. Nothing to blog about.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Someone came up to the microphone to respond to Ralph's point about Acts 2. Ralph says he agrees. He is explaining that his point is how much do you have to have demonstrated before you baptize them. He says if someone says he is in sin and won't do anything about it then you don't baptize him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Next question is about Daniel 9:27. He is basically saying that it's a tricky passage. I'm not sure I followed him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- The next question is on team teaching. When can a woman teach etc. The example of Priscilla and Aquila is mentioned. Ralph says Apollos was a private environment. He says that the Scriptures teach that men are spiritual leaders and are to be the teachers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- The next question is on team teaching. When can a woman teach etc. The example of Priscilla and Aquila is mentioned. Ralph says Apollos was a private environment. He says that the Scriptures teach that men are spiritual leaders and are to be the teachers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- The next question has to do with if the example of selling the property and giving it all to the church binding. Ralph says no. It was voluntary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Second question is regarding weather or not baptism washes away adultery. Ralph says adultery is continuous action. Ralph mentions Acts 2 and the 300. He then asks if the apostles asked them all specific questions about all the sins they were committing. Ralph says there wasn't time to do that in Acts 2. He said what's important is to have an attitude of repentance. He says that they need to do need to repent though.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Ralph opens up with a question regarding what a woman should do with a husband that is verbally abusive. Basically Ralph says go see a good Christian counselor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- And Ralph delivers as predicted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- The Open Forum is about to begin. David Lipe is going to give the standard info about how FHU doesn't necessarily endorse what Ralph says; yadda yadda. Ralph is about to get to the mic. I'm betting he will open with a joke.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-8064585622438913715?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/8064585622438913715/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=8064585622438913715' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/8064585622438913715'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/8064585622438913715'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2009/02/fhu-open-forum-live-blog.html' title='FHU Open Forum Live Blog'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-3119766165169328542</id><published>2009-02-02T11:46:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-02-02T12:03:37.791-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='FHU'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='FHU Lectureship'/><title type='text'>Back at the FHU Lectures...</title><content type='html'>I'm at the Freed Hardeman University Lectures again in 2009. This year my friend Cliff Sabroe came with me. Today we attended the morning chapel lecture by Jesse Robertson. His text was Psalm 23. At the beginning of the lesson he had the whole audience quote the 23rd Psalm. That was the last time it was mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After chapel we took a quick stroll through Bader Gym to check out the booths. We didn't spend a whole lot of time in there; too many people. Someone came up with the idea of eating Mexican food so we took off to eat with Alex, David, Ben, Kyle, and Steven. It only confirmed what I have been telling Cliff since we got here, they don't have Mexican food in Tennessee.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After Mexican (or whatever you want to call it) we headed back to catch the 1:30 lecture by Glen Henton. He is speaking on “Preaching Repentance to the World” (Psalm 51). There is much more to come until today is over.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Caleb&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Daily Sightings...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; - Tom Holland&lt;br /&gt; - Garland Elkins&lt;br /&gt; - Mac Lyon&lt;br /&gt; - Earl Edwards&lt;br /&gt; - Allen Webster&lt;br /&gt; - James Meadows&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-3119766165169328542?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/3119766165169328542/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=3119766165169328542' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/3119766165169328542'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/3119766165169328542'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2009/02/back-at-fhu-lectures.html' title='Back at the FHU Lectures...'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-1067296043736576761</id><published>2008-11-08T21:32:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-08T21:41:44.346-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Michael Crichton'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='global warming'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evolution'/><title type='text'>We are off and blogging...</title><content type='html'>I have lots of blog posts back logged… so here we go.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;November 4th, 2008 was an important day. It’s the day Michael Crichton died after a private fight with cancer. Most people probably remember him for his famous book turned movie Jurrasic Park. Next on the list would probably be his creation of the TV show ER. He was a well studied individual in many respects. He was even a medical doctor who went to Harvard Medical School. To be honest, I didn’t really know anything about him until recently.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The one aspect I want to talk about is his political science views. In 2004 he wrote a techno-thriller called State of Fear. Having not read the book, only articles about it, I can’t give you a good review. What I can do is point out that everyone agrees the book was about how public opinion, policy, and social order are controlled by a belief in global warming that cannot be backed up by science – even though sceintist claim it is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In 2003 he gave a speech at the California Institute of technology were he said he was concered about the, “emerging crisis in the whole enterprise of science-namely the increasingly uneasy relationship between hard science and public policy” (&lt;a href="http://www.crichton-official.com/speech-alienscauseglobalwarming.html"&gt;http://www.crichton-official.com/speech-alienscauseglobalwarming.html&lt;/a&gt;). He set out to argue for the seperation of politics and science. His thesis was that scientist were creating something and stating it as fact in order to control the general publics behavior. And he had lots of facts to back it up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now I don’t know of, and I highly doubt, that Crichton ever carried his ideas over to invistage evolution. The reality is that the same arguments that are used to state man made global warming as fact are the same that are used to teach evolution (i.e. scientific conesis, in other words a lot of scientists say so, is that it is true, therfore it is true). I believe that when Americans, and others, wake up and realize they were being lead off by Honest John and Gideon (e.g. scientists) to Pleasure Island (a Pinocchio referrence for those of you who don’t have kids watching Disney movies all the time) they will have to logically reject both ideologies. The question is will America wake up before they all become donkeys? The election of our most recent leaders does not give me a whole lot of hope at the moment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Caleb O’Hara&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-1067296043736576761?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/1067296043736576761/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=1067296043736576761' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/1067296043736576761'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/1067296043736576761'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2008/11/we-are-off-and-blogging.html' title='We are off and blogging...'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-4378902201267599179</id><published>2008-10-13T15:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-10-13T15:46:19.400-07:00</updated><title type='text'>I'm Back!</title><content type='html'>OK… so I’ve taken a blogging break for the last few days (ok… months). There has been a lot going on that I won’t bore you with. The good news in we are homeowners now! Moved in, but not quite settled. The blog will be updated on a semi-regular basis again. So keep your eyes open!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sow the Seed,&lt;br /&gt;Caleb O’Hara&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-4378902201267599179?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/4378902201267599179/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=4378902201267599179' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/4378902201267599179'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/4378902201267599179'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2008/10/im-back.html' title='I&apos;m Back!'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-8423407596470471869</id><published>2008-07-27T07:28:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-27T08:03:05.508-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Gospel'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preaching'/><title type='text'>10 Years Today</title><content type='html'>Recently I have been preaching a series of sermons on the gospel message. The lessons the last two weeks were on the response to the Gospel and the necessity of the Gospel to make a Christian. A couple weeks ago I decided I would preach the very first sermon I ever preached, today. It was a sermon on Romans 1:14-17 – The Responsibility of the Gospel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is one really interesting piece to me preaching this sermon today. As I was going back through my brain last night I realized that it was exactly ten years ago today that I preached my first sermon – this sermon! I was sixteen years old and a babe in Christ by only a couple months. The only reason I remember the date is because it was the last week in July when Merced went to Yosemite Bible Camp. That Sunday night I preached in Merced because their preacher was already up at camp (my cousin Jake took my up after evening worship in my grandpa’s Chevy S10). It was a special day for me and the sermon was special to me too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wow… TEN YEARS! I really am starting to feel old. It’s hard to believe that God has enabled me to preach the gospel for ten years now. If the Lord wills, I’m looking forward to the next ten. There is no greater responsibility then to be faithful with the faithful message.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Preach the Word,&lt;br /&gt;Caleb&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-8423407596470471869?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/8423407596470471869/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=8423407596470471869' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/8423407596470471869'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/8423407596470471869'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2008/07/10-years-today.html' title='10 Years Today'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-2827606588620225585</id><published>2008-07-23T12:24:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-23T16:32:50.051-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Brian McLaren'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Emerging Church'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='disciple'/><title type='text'>Are You Seeking to Become a Disciple?</title><content type='html'>For some time now I have been slowly following the Emerging Church Movement. Time and space are not sufficient here to give a thorough evaluation of what it is, and the whole movement is based on being “vague” so they hate being defined. A man by the name of Brian McLaren really is the top spokesman for this movement (whether he or anyone else would admit it).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McLaren has created lots of disciples from people who have grown up around and/or been associated with the churches of Christ. McLaren has become a keynote speaker at many of our universities and lectureships that are ran by men saying the church has to “change.” How fitting that McLaren wrote a book called, “Everything Must Change.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don’t believe I could do justice in explaining the wide impact that McLaren and the Emerging Church Movement have had on the Lord’s church. But there is one area that I want to address. Notice this quote from a blogger who was commenting on a lecture he heard by Brian McLaren:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Now, notice that [McLaren’s] not calling for isolation from the ‘denominations,’ but engagement. Rather than pull up our tents, we go out into the wider Christian world and call not for a restoration of the forms of the first century church, but for a restoration of a community of people who are seeking to become disciples of Christ.” (&lt;a href="http://jphilwilson.blogspot.com/2007/10/brian-mclaren-churches-of-christ-and.html"&gt;http://jphilwilson.blogspot.com/2007/10/brian-mclaren-churches-of-christ-and.html&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The area I really want to emphasis is this, “people who are seeking to become disciples of Christ.” Phrases like we are just “seeking to become disciples of Christ,” or “we are seeking to understand the Kingdom of God” are commonly heard by the emerging church folks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The question is where in Scripture does it ever speak of “seeking to become a disciple?” You either become a disciple of Christ or you don’t. Jesus told His disciples (were they disciples or just seeking to become them?) to go and “make disciples.” Where did he ever go and tell His disciples (were they disciples?) to go and make people to be seekers of becoming disciples of Christ? Jesus says: “If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple. Whoever does not carry his own cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple” (Luke 14:26-27). Did Jesus say to try and carry your own cross? Did Jesus say to seek to come after me? Did Jesus say to seek to become a disciple? What nonsense. You either are a self-denying, cross carrying, disciple of Jesus Christ or you are not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Add to that Matthew 13:52, “And Jesus said to them, ‘Therefore every scribe who has become a disciple of the kingdom of heaven.’” Did Jesus say every scribe who is seeking to become a disciple, or every scribe who HAS become a disciple of the kingdom! This rhetoric about seeking to understand the kingdom and seeking to become a disciple just shows the shallow depths of this movement. How much further away from the teaching of Christ can you get? All this movement is is another excuse to be your own Lord and be a disciple of self!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me summarize it for you like this. This is the gospel according to McLaren, “Go therefore until all the world and tell the Buddhist, Muslim, and devote Pagan, to seek to become a disciple of Jesus while truly just being devout in whatever else you believe.” McLaren says, “If any Buddhist, Muslim, or Devout Pagan wishes to come after me let me seek to deny himself when we wants, take up the cross he thinks he wants to bear, when he wants to bear it, and come after me if you feel like it and to the degree you want to understand it.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have more respect for the Buddhist who flat out denies the deity and Lordship of Christ, than I do for these men who claim Jesus and then say that they are just “seeking to become His disciple.” It’s time to get real about this and address it. It’s time for people to stop being disciples of McLaren while trying to become disciples of Jesus, and just make the commitment and be a disciple of Jesus!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sow the Seed,&lt;br /&gt;Caleb&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-2827606588620225585?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/2827606588620225585/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=2827606588620225585' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/2827606588620225585'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/2827606588620225585'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2008/07/are-you-seeking-to-become-disciple.html' title='Are You Seeking to Become a Disciple?'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-4798785909711018716</id><published>2008-07-11T23:14:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-11T23:20:50.235-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='exegete'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homeless'/><title type='text'>Homeless</title><content type='html'>Well I’m homeless! It’s a long story but we are trying to buy a house and we are facing the nightmare of trying to buy a foreclosure. It’s too complicated to explain here but the main idea is that it is a big mess. Just a couple quick updates:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(1)   Go to &lt;a href="http://www.focuspress.org/ignite/index.html"&gt;http://www.focuspress.org/ignite/index.html&lt;/a&gt; and subscribe to the new magazine for teens published by Focus Press.&lt;br /&gt;(2)   My friend Luis Camacho and I came up with an idea for a new commercial. There is a guy standing behind a pulpit and he says he is going to preach an expository sermon. A member says “Wow, are you an exegete. The man replies, “No but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sow the Seed,&lt;br /&gt;Caleb O’Hara&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-4798785909711018716?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/4798785909711018716/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=4798785909711018716' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/4798785909711018716'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/4798785909711018716'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2008/07/homeless.html' title='Homeless'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-8072005518459316392</id><published>2008-06-20T16:02:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-20T16:44:39.674-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='social security'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='oil'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='government'/><title type='text'>They Want to Run Your Life!</title><content type='html'>We have exactly one week to be moved out of our rental. Life is crazy. One thing I had to do was give a copy of my social security card to the lender in order to get our loan. Just one small problem... apparently we already packed it! Last night I got on the Social Security Administrations website and you will not believe what I saw. First look at this screen shot of the website and no I did not make this up!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 491px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 272px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" height="242" alt="" src="http://www.calebohara.com/uploaded_images/1-756191.jpg" width="434" border="0" /&gt;Look closely at the center of the page near the bottom. Yes, you are reading that correctly "Special Instructions for Users Who Are Blind." &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;So I needed to locate the closest office to me. So I entered my zip cope and clicked that little locate button and this is what popped up:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://www.calebohara.com/uploaded_images/2-755063.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yes you are reading that correctly! The web service that tells you where the closest office takes time off too!&lt;br /&gt;So after finally getting the web server to come back to work I found my local office in Manteca, California. I made my way down there. When I got there I got my number and sat down in a crowded room. There were three windows and only two of them had people working at them. My number was A119 and they were currently servicing A116. The wait can't be too long - I thought. While sitting there I listened to one guy scream to another about high gas prices. I also watch a lady slap a girl across the face, a boy spill a milk shake, middle age ladies without teeth complain about the government not taking care of them, and a lady let her kid play with the log in computer which messed up the entire system. It was exciting let me tell you. After an hour and half I finally made my way to the counter. In an hour and a half I watched them only help six people. Six people in an hour and a half!&lt;br /&gt;Yes, this is what happens when you allow a government agency to take over your retirement system. In fact, this is what happens when government takes over anything. As Ronald Reagan said, "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" How true is that?&lt;br /&gt;This little exercise was a shaking reminder of the devastation that is sure to take place if members of congress get their way. &lt;a href="http://www.foxnews.com/urgent_queue/index.html#a54ef44,2008-06-18"&gt;They want to take over the oil refinaries &lt;/a&gt;(which they have blocked from allowing companies to build for thirty years). As the congressman from California says in this clip below, they want to socialize oil.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;object height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/GqjFBiPMmBE&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;color1=0x5d1719&amp;amp;color2=0xcd311b"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/GqjFBiPMmBE&amp;hl=en&amp;rel=0&amp;color1=0x5d1719&amp;color2=0xcd311b" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you think $4.50 a gallon for gas is expensive it will look like a liquidation close out deal when the governement takes over the oil industry. Back to packing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Caleb&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-8072005518459316392?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/8072005518459316392/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=8072005518459316392' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/8072005518459316392'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/8072005518459316392'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2008/06/they-want-to-run-your-life.html' title='They Want to Run Your Life!'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-8854194764420202125</id><published>2008-06-18T22:20:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-18T22:52:52.722-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='divorce'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homosexuality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='moving'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='marriage'/><title type='text'>My Roots, My State, My Sadness</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://img.iht.com/images/2008/06/19/18france-vote.550.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 400px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://img.iht.com/images/2008/06/19/18france-vote.550.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/Antonio"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is a picture of ushers at the European Parliament trying to stop the Irish voice. One thing is for sure, we Irish don't like to be told that we can't be heard. OK enough of that.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;So I'm way behind on my blog. Life is CRAZY! I will spare the details and just say that we are leaving for Yosemite Bible Camp next weekend and we have to be moved out of our rental before we leave for camp. And, the closing on our house has been delayed until possibly August 4th. What that means is we have to be moved out next week at which time we will be homeless until possibly August 4th.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On Tuesday nights I have begun a "Digging Deeper" course. It's been going well and I'm really excited about it. We lost a few students after they saw the workload :), but all in all not bad.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The last couple days I have been thinking a lot about all of the homosexual marriage in California issue. As of yesterday California began issuing marriage licenses to people who by the very definition of the word marriage cannot marry. The cultural decay is going downhill rapidly. I really don't know how much more God will tolerate. It saddens me greatly that our society is accepting this. I heard a DJ talking about how “cute” this story was of a homosexual couple in their eighties getting married after 50+ years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It ought to be no surprise as a biblical view of marriage has been under attack for a long time. God's institution of marriage has been neglected for a long time and the church has even accepted it to a large degree. God's institution that binds a man and a woman together for life, to which Jesus went back to in Matthew 19, is the same one that makes a marriage between two men or two women ungodly. The church has set herself up for this fall by accepting men and women who have been divorced and remarried for a reason other than adultery (God's standard). If we take the position that it's ok because they weren't Christians when they did it what moral standing does the church have to stand against homosexual marriages of nonchristians? They aren't Christians right? So God doesn't hold them accountable. Not only that, all they have to do is be baptized and they can remain in a homosexual relationship because their sin was washed away. I'm reminded of the words of a preacher who means a lot to me, &lt;a href="http://www.broadwaycoc.com/"&gt;Dan Owen&lt;/a&gt;, who once said something like, "The church is in open rebellion against God's laws of marriage." Sad, but true.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OK that's all for now. When I get settled I will blog more regularly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Caleb&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-8854194764420202125?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/8854194764420202125/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=8854194764420202125' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/8854194764420202125'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/8854194764420202125'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2008/06/my-roots-my-state-my-sadness.html' title='My Roots, My State, My Sadness'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-3856322472417889584</id><published>2008-06-13T14:23:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-13T14:30:53.379-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div align="center"&gt;For those of you who are interested....&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.americansolutions.com/media/4CDF1CEC-779C-4699-A123-A8992F4D9219/217ae618-c18d-4989-931a-771ba4ae5657.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 400px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="https://www.americansolutions.com/media/4CDF1CEC-779C-4699-A123-A8992F4D9219/217ae618-c18d-4989-931a-771ba4ae5657.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Half a Million Americans Petition Congress to Drill for Oil Now By: June 11, 2008 &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;WASHINGTON, DC – American Solutions for Winning the Future announced today that more than half a million Americans have now signed a petition urging Congress to immediately start drilling for oil domestically to lower gas prices. The petition is part of the “Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less” campaign American Solutions launched a few weeks ago.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The petition reads:&lt;br /&gt;“We, therefore, the undersigned citizens of the United States, petition the U.S. Congress to act immediately to lower gasoline prices (and diesel and other fuel prices) by authorizing the exploration of proven energy reserves to reduce our dependence on foreign energy sources from unstable countries.”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to American Solutions’ new research data, 81% of the American people support the U.S. using more of its own domestic energy resources, including the oil and coal already here, to combat the rising cost of energy and reduce dependence on foreign energy sources. This belief is so widespread it is supported by a majority of Democrats, Republicans, and independents.&lt;br /&gt;“Hard-working American families are struggling to pay the soaring prices for gas, diesel, food, electricity, and everything else affected by the high price of oil,” said Dave Ryan, American Solutions Executive Director. “The voices of more than half a million Americans are united in demanding that Congress offer real solutions to our energy challenges, starting with taking immediate action to drill here and drill now.”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As the “Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less” petition drive continues to gain more momentum, American Solutions plans to deliver 3 million signatures to both parties at their national conventions.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For more information about the “Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less” campaign, visit &lt;a href="http://www.americansolutions.com/DrillNow"&gt;www.AmericanSolutions.com/DrillNow&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-3856322472417889584?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/3856322472417889584/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=3856322472417889584' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/3856322472417889584'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/3856322472417889584'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2008/06/drill-here-drill-now-pay-less.html' title='Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less!'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-1512145395409165838</id><published>2008-06-06T13:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-06T14:20:57.568-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ronald Reagan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='D-Day'/><title type='text'>I'm Still Here</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;Lots of exciting things are happening in the O'Hara family. We have an accepted offer and will be moving into our first house by the end of this month. It's going to be a very rushed move as we are moving, cleaning up the rental, and going to Yosemite Bible Camp for a week two days later. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2008-02/35099352.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2008-02/35099352.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;There are many things about which I need to blog as I have taken an extended blog break. Today, however, I need to post this video clip. Today is the anniversary of the beginning of the end of WWII. There are two speeches by Ronald Reagan given on the 40th anniversary that need to be listened to by every single American. So for you all, I post the clip of one and the transcript of another.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/rBeyZAmmJNg&amp;amp;hl=en"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/rBeyZAmmJNg&amp;hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;Mr. President, distinguished guests, we stand today at a place of battle, one that 40 years ago saw and felt the worst of war. Men bled and died here for a few feet of--or inches of sand, as bullets and shellfire cut through their ranks. About them, General Omar Bradley later said, "Every man who set foot on Omaha Beach that day was a hero." &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No speech can adequately portray their suffering, their sacrifice, their heroism. President Lincoln once reminded us that through their deeds, the dead of battle have spoken more eloquently for themselves than any of the living ever could. But we can only honor them by rededicating ourselves to the cause for which they gave a last full measure of devotion.&lt;br /&gt;Today we do rededicate ourselves to that cause. And at this place of honor, we're humbled by the realization of how much so many gave to the cause of freedom and to their fellow man.&lt;br /&gt;Some who survived the battle of June 6, 1944, are here today. Others who hoped to return never did. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Someday, Lis, I'll go back," said Private First Class Peter Robert Zanatta, of the 37th Engineer Combat Battalion, and first assault wave to hit Omaha Beach. "I'll go back, and I'll see it all again. I'll see the beach, the barricades, and the graves." &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those words of Private Zanatta come to us from his daughter, Lisa Zanatta Henn, in a heartrending story about the event her father spoke of so often. "In his words, the Normandy invasion would change his life forever," she said. She tells some of his stories of World War II but says of her father, "the story to end all stories was D-Day." &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"He made me feel the fear of being on that boat waiting to land. I can smell the ocean and feel the seasickness. I can see the looks on his fellow soldiers' faces--the fear, the anguish, the uncertainty of what lay ahead. And when they landed, I can feel the strength and courage of the men who took those first steps through the tide to what must have surely looked like instant death." &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Private Zanatta's daughter wrote to me: "I don't know how or why I can feel this emptiness, this fear, or this determination, but I do. Maybe it's the bond I had with my father. All I know is that it brings tears to my eyes to think about my father as a 20-year-old boy having to face that beach." &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The anniversary of D-Day was always special for her family. And like all the families of those who went to war, she describes how she came to realize her own father's survival was a miracle: "So many men died. I know that my father watched many of his friends be killed. I know that he must have died inside a little each time. But his explanation to me was, 'You did what you had to do, and you kept on going.'" &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When men like Private Zanatta and all our Allied forces stormed the beaches of Normandy 40 years ago they came not as conquerors, but as liberators. When these troops swept across the French countryside and into the forests of Belgium and Luxembourg they came not to take, but to return what had been wrongly seized. When our forces marched into Germany they came not to prey on a brave and defeated people, but to nurture the seeds of democracy among those who yearned to be free again. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We salute them today. But, Mr. President, we also salute those who, like yourself, were already engaging the enemy inside your beloved country--the French Resistance. Your valiant struggle for France did so much to cripple the enemy and spur the advance of the armies of liberation. The French Forces of the Interior will forever personify courage and national spirit. They will be a timeless inspiration to all who are free and to all who would be free. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today, in their memory, and for all who fought here, we celebrate the triumph of democracy. We reaffirm the unity of democratic peoples who fought a war and then joined with the vanquished in a firm resolve to keep the peace. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From a terrible war we learned that unity made us invincible; now, in peace, that same unity makes us secure. We sought to bring all freedom-loving nations together in a community dedicated to the defense and preservation of our sacred values. Our alliance, forged in the crucible of war, tempered and shaped by the realities of the postwar world, has succeeded. In Europe, the threat has been contained, the peace has been kept.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today the living here assembled--officials, veterans, citizens--are a tribute to what was achieved here 40 years ago. This land is secure. We are free. These things are worth fighting and dying for. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lisa Zanatta Henn began her story by quoting her father, who promised that he would return to Normandy. She ended with a promise to her father, who died eight years ago of cancer: "I'm going there, Dad, and I'll see the beaches and the barricades and the monuments. I'll see the graves, and I'll put flowers there just like you wanted to do. I'll feel all the things you made me feel through your stories and your eyes. I'll never forget what you went through, Dad, nor will I let anyone else forget. And, Dad, I'll always be proud."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Through the words of his loving daughter, who is here with us today, a D-Day veteran has shown us the meaning of this day far better than any President can. It is enough for us to say about Private Zanatta and all the men of honor and courage who fought beside him four decades ago: We will always remember. We will always be proud. We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;President Ronald Reagan spoke at 4:33 p.m. at the Omaha Beach Memorial at Omaho Beach, France. In his opening remarks, he referred to President Francois Mitterrand of France. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;(&lt;a href="http://www.reaganlibrary.com/reagan/speeches/dday_omaha.asp"&gt;http://www.reaganlibrary.com/reagan/speeches/dday_omaha.asp&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-1512145395409165838?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/1512145395409165838/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=1512145395409165838' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/1512145395409165838'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/1512145395409165838'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2008/06/im-still-here.html' title='I&apos;m Still Here'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-7138885794244446764</id><published>2008-05-17T23:12:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-17T23:14:41.210-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homosexuality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='marriage'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Arnold Schwarzenegger'/><title type='text'>Governor are you for or against homosexual marriage? Yes!</title><content type='html'>Most people who live in California, or who watch news on a regular basis (if you do I’m sorry for you), know that the California State Supreme Court ruled last Thursday that the California State Constitution demands homosexuals be allowed to marry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Homosexual marriage is an oxymoron. At our preachers’ luncheon this week Garry Green, the preacher in Brentwood,  was correctly arguing that marriage as ALWAYS been defined as being between a man and a woman to start a family. The state supreme court redefined the word marriage after thousands of years to fit their own agenda.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now I will be the first to say this does not surprise me in California. California is famous for our left-wing humanist, Marxist, liberal, social evolution policy leadership. What I want to focus on for a minute is our great (it hurts to even write that jokingly) governor. Arnold says his personal view is that marriage is, “marriage is between a man and a woman.” Then he goes on to say that he is going to fight the constitutional amendment that is going to be on the ballot this fall to define marriage as between a man and a woman – figure that one out. Apparently he is going to be fighting against what he believes in. At the end of one of the articles I read the author quotes Arnold and says: “Schwarzenegger said he doesn't think same-sex marriages in the coming months will stir up Californians much. ‘I think life will go on as usual,’ he said.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let’s hope Arnold is wrong – way wrong! Now is the time for people who believe in family values to stand up and take a stand. Are we going to let four judges on a bench in San Francisco redefine a word that has had the same definition for thousands of years? Are we going to let the minority of our society participate in an institution that God setup to be between a man and a woman? I hope life will not go on as usual these next few months leading up to the election. I pray the people of California will send a resounding voice to the world that we still stand on the foundations of marriage. Time will tell. It’s time for people to start praying and start voting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And one last thing… just to let everyone know I did NOT vote for Arnold so I take no responsibility for his actions :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Caleb&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*Information source is &lt;a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/16/BASD10NVAI.DTL&amp;amp;tsp=1"&gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/16/BASD10NVAI.DTL&amp;amp;tsp=1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-7138885794244446764?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/7138885794244446764/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=7138885794244446764' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/7138885794244446764'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/7138885794244446764'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2008/05/governor-are-you-for-or-against.html' title='Governor are you for or against homosexual marriage? Yes!'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-4821538631968790938</id><published>2008-05-16T12:03:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-16T19:31:21.909-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fred Thompson'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='postmodernism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church Growth'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='change'/><title type='text'>Fred Thompson, Postmodernism, and Change</title><content type='html'>Today I found out that Fred Thompson was going to be writing for &lt;a href="http://www.townhall.com/"&gt;Townhall.com&lt;/a&gt;. As I read through &lt;a href="http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/429e90a4-e299-4d3a-82b1-e440b3db6354"&gt;his first blog post &lt;/a&gt;I found his words to be profoundly parallel with the church. Notice what he says in the context of thoughts that have been confirmed to him in the process of the presidential race: “&lt;em&gt;Second, change – whether it “real change,” “bold change” or the “change we can believe in” variety others are selling – isn’t itself an innovative policy or a particularly strong leadership stance…. The challenge for conservatives is calibrating whether the change being proposed is consistent with our principles and our philosophy, and whether that change is appropriate&lt;/em&gt;.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today people are looking at numbers. They are looking at truth from a pragmatic perspective. They have been sold a faulty premise which has been reinforced blatantly, and many times unknowingly, from the pulpit, eldership, our Christian colleges, and our papers (many of whom would proudly ware the label of conservative). There are others who have bought into an unbiblical worldview of what truth is or isn’t, if it exist, and if it does can I so claim to know it? There is lots of talk about postmodernism amongst the churches of Christ. I hear people chiming in about knowing lots about it or not knowing much of it. I read of people claiming to be for or against it. Recently I read a blog where the author said he had a teacher who said he was against postmodernism. I’m not sure what the teacher meant, I was not there, but there is a way in which the teacher would be correct in what he said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fact is we live in a country filled with people who are evaluating truth through the lenses of postmodernism. Is it helpful to understand this mindset? No doubt! But here is the rub. What is one to do when he is faced with a country filled with people who have a particular worldview that is not allowing for the results you want (i.e. the church to be increasing in numbers through the roof in a matter of years)? The following is a synopsis of the progression amongst the Lord's church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's start with when a problem was set on the table. Many of the “big dogs” amongst the churches of Christ began giving blistering lectures at our “big shows” about how many are not “growing” (what that means is increasing in numbers) like we once were so we must “change” something. So how are we going to fix the problem of not growing numerically by leaps and bounds?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, these men began advocating that we must “change” our methods of evangelism. This went on for some time amongst us. We had programs from the Roman Road, to We Care, to Friendship Evangelism, to Fisher’s of Men, to Small Groups, and this list could get really long but if you have been involved you can make your own long list here. Then the experts went back to the tables to see what the “results” were of their endeavors. The numbers came in and they did not improve. In some cases they got worse. The change the method idea didn’t work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, we were faced with a major fork in the road. We began to question our message. Is it really true that we have the truth on these matters of faith if nobody else is accepting them? The next natural avenue to “change” was doctrine. If the method being “changed” didn’t bring the results then the only thing left to “change” is the message. It was/is rather slow at first. A little change here or a little change there and then it quickly blasts forward into wholesale change of the message.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let’s bring Fred Thompson back into the picture for just a moment. Pay attention to these words, “&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;change&lt;/strong&gt; – whether it “real change,” “bold change” or the “change we can believe in” variety others are selling – &lt;strong&gt;isn’t itself an innovative&lt;/strong&gt; policy or a &lt;strong&gt;particularly strong leadership stance&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.” What Mr. Thompson is saying is that careful scrutiny needs to be applied to the source of the conflict because “change” is not in and of itself a virtue. Is there a problem? What is the problem? Is the problem real? If so how do we change to fix this problem? To use some words of Mr. Thompson, the challenge for the Lord’s church is calibrating whether or not the change being called for is founded, and if it is consistent with God’s word and His principals. Here are a couple thoughts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, in all the bantering amongst the churches of Christ I scarcely hear the voice that challenges the validity of the “problem.” All of this “change” is based upon the need to bring dramatic increase in numbers. But what if the problem is not really a problem? What if God never obligated His church to be the manufactures of numbers? What if God never said nor implied he was going to judge His people based upon the numbers they produced? What if we CHANGED our understanding and realized that the problem is not a problem?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, how do we address the postmodern culture? When the old methods didn’t work we tried lots of new ones. So when that didn’t work we changed the message. But why is it that the postmodern mind is never challenged to change? We are told we must just embrace the postmodern mind – bologna! All have conceded, from Earl Edwards to Rubel Shelly, the reality that the majority of people living in our culture have that mind, but that by no means dictates the necessity to change the MESSAGE to fit the mind. No, rather it means our job is ever before us to challenge the minds of the majority of people in our culture to change!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The task is heavy to take a message to a world that does not want to hear it, but for crying out loud have we read the Gospels? Have we read the New Testament? And have we read the Old Testament prophets and the task they bore on their backs!!! Noah, Elijah, Jermiah, Isaiah, Amos, Jonah, John the Baptist, Jesus, Peter, Paul, and every other spokesman of God in the Bible were prophets of change! Change the message? Never! Change the method? Sometimes. Change the thinking of the culture they lived in? Every single one of them! Was the soil different in different places at different times? For sure. Was their success and pleasing-ness to God based upon their number of converts? Not a single one of them. They were all pleasing to God, without exception, when they held fast and proclaimed His word regardless of the culture they found themselves, and their receptivity to the message.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is change needed? Yes. Do we need to change the methods? Sometimes. Do we need to change the message? NEVER! Do we need to change our faulty premises? No doubt. Must we proclaim a message to the people in a postmodern culture to change their entire way of thinking? That is the task at hand – to preach the foolishness of the cross to our culture and let God handle the rest.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sow the Seed,&lt;br /&gt;Caleb O’Hara&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-4821538631968790938?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/4821538631968790938/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=4821538631968790938' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/4821538631968790938'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/4821538631968790938'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2008/05/fred-thompson-postmodernism-and-change.html' title='Fred Thompson, Postmodernism, and Change'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-6329187311981262567</id><published>2008-05-10T23:30:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-13T01:14:39.604-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mother&apos;s Day'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='busy life'/><title type='text'>Thanks for Showing UP!</title><content type='html'>My apologies for the lack of updates!!! Life has been busy. Here is what’s on the plate (1) trying to buy a house (2) training for a 5k on May 24th in Modesto (3) possibly training for the Worlds Jiu Jitsu tournament in Long Beach on June 5th (4) studying to take CLEP tests for 36 units so I can be done with my B.A. from Regions University, formerly known as Southern Christian University, now known as I don’t even know what! Oh yeah (5) and family, God, church, and work – all of which are interrelated for me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This week was packed with the &lt;a href="http://www.churchofthebible.com/"&gt;West Visalia Church of Christ Lectureship &lt;/a&gt;which I attended Monday through Wednesday morning. Monday morning I spoke at the lectures. On Friday I attended a funeral in Hughson for the mother and grandmother of some of our members in Ripon. Today was my nephew’s birthday and we headed up to Stockton to celebrate that. After the party we all ate dinner in Ripon and the family went to the park. When we got to the park I ran home (exactly three miles!). WOW – What I week.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tomorrow is Mother’s Day in America. I’m preaching on “Thanks for Showing Up.” I got the idea after reading over some Mother’s Day stuff on the internet. NO, I am not using someone else’s sermon outline even though I got the idea from an illustration in someone else’s sermon outline. His sermon, in my opinion, would have been much better had he framed it all around the “thanks for showing up” illustration. Tomorrow we will see how it turns out :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To all the Mothers out there, THANK YOU! Especially to my mother who has put up with me for over twenty-six years – now that’s a mother!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sow the Seed,&lt;br /&gt;Caleb O’Hara&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-6329187311981262567?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/6329187311981262567/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=6329187311981262567' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/6329187311981262567'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/6329187311981262567'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2008/05/thanks-for-showing-up.html' title='Thanks for Showing UP!'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-4121035071253437429</id><published>2008-05-06T09:50:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-06T09:57:28.486-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lectureship'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='West Visalia'/><title type='text'>West Visaila Lectureship</title><content type='html'>I'm still in Visalia at the lectureship. Videos of the lectures are up on the web at &lt;a href="http://wvcoc.blogspot.com/"&gt;http://wvcoc.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;. Just be sure not to watch mine. When I get a chance I will update.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sow the Seed,&lt;br /&gt;Caleb O'Hara&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-4121035071253437429?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/4121035071253437429/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=4121035071253437429' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/4121035071253437429'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/4121035071253437429'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2008/05/west-visaila-lectureship.html' title='West Visaila Lectureship'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-7631206413960630261</id><published>2008-05-03T14:30:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-03T16:02:09.302-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='busy life'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lectureship'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='West Visalia'/><title type='text'>Mi Vida Loca</title><content type='html'>Today is just an update in the life of Caleb BLOG. It’s been an absolutely crazy day. This morning I went to my computer to finish up lots of work and my computer was not working. At 2:10 I FINALLY got it fixed – what a nightmare!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tomorrow I am continuing a sermon series called “Square ONE: Back to the Beginning.” If you can’t tell by the title they are all lessons out of Genesis. Tomorrow we look at the great gift of freedom God gave man. The beginning reveals the freedom to chose, and yes the freedom to sin. Sin puts its ugly mark on this planet and mankind and God has been in the redemption business ever since. Well that’s the gist of the message.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Immediately following Sunday evening worship we are heading to Visalia, California. First thing Monday morning I’m speaking at &lt;a href="http://www.wvcoc.org/2008_Lectureship.html"&gt;the West Visalia Lectureship &lt;/a&gt;on “More Like Jesus in Tolerance (Romans 14).” Romans 14 is probably one of the most hotly debated passages in our brotherhood these days and they picked ME to speak on it. What’s the deal? I guess my friend Cliff Sabroe doesn’t like me too much. Yesterday I finished translating the entire passage and now it’s a matter of tweaking and reworking so that my exegesis can become proper exposition. My whole first part of the week will be spent there in Visalia. I’m looking forward to seeing some of my mentors: Denny Petrillo, Hi Jones, and Byron Benitez while I am there as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://media.americanidol.com/photos/227/29194.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 215px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 304px" height="365" alt="" src="http://media.americanidol.com/photos/227/29194.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;This week I have been grieving the loss of my American Idol Brooke White. Her moral character is something to be applauded. So Brooke, we will miss you. My wife is happy though. Now I can’t talk about her anymore :).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On a final note, last night we went and heard Frank Chesser preach at the East Main church of Christ in Stockton. It was good to see family and friends and Frank’s message on sin was very appropriate. Wayne was looking good and I pray the Lord gives him many more years of service in the Kingdom.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That’s all for now!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sow the Seed,&lt;br /&gt;Caleb O’Hara&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-7631206413960630261?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/7631206413960630261/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=7631206413960630261' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/7631206413960630261'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/7631206413960630261'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2008/05/mi-vida-loca.html' title='Mi Vida Loca'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-2320616364431414451</id><published>2008-05-01T16:22:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-02T15:37:46.261-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church Growth'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Numbers'/><title type='text'>Is Jesus the Way or Not?</title><content type='html'>The modern "Church Growth Movement" naturally leads itself to this end. Must one come through Jesus to get to the Father? It's a simple yes or no question that Jesus Himself answers (John 14:1ff). Apparently even if the Scriptures say it it's not good enough for those in the Church Growth Movement. It might turn people away, and if people are turned away the numbers go down, and if the numbers go down we must be doing something wrong!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="373" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/vPeYUXuuRUM&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;color1=0x5d1719&amp;amp;color2=0xcd311b&amp;amp;border=1"&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/vPeYUXuuRUM&amp;hl=en&amp;color1=0x5d1719&amp;color2=0xcd311b&amp;border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="373"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;UPDATE:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="373"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/MfwYU2pmWYQ&amp;border=1&amp;color1=0x5d1719&amp;color2=0xcd311b&amp;hl=en"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/MfwYU2pmWYQ&amp;border=1&amp;color1=0x5d1719&amp;color2=0xcd311b&amp;hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="373"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Think About It...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sow the Seed,&lt;br /&gt;Caleb O'Hara&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-2320616364431414451?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/2320616364431414451/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=2320616364431414451' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/2320616364431414451'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/2320616364431414451'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2008/05/is-jesus-way-or-not.html' title='Is Jesus the Way or Not?'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-2502125946397056789</id><published>2008-04-28T21:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-04-29T15:25:28.962-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Schools'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Worldview'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Teaching'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Children'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Marxism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Humanism'/><title type='text'>What Your Child Learned in School Today</title><content type='html'>For those of you who wonder what your children are being taught at school here is a bit of an insight...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The goal of Planned Parenthood [a group that teaches on public school campuses every school day in America] according to one staffer is to help “young people obtain sex satisfaction before marriage. By sanctioning sex before marriage, we will prevent fear and guilt” - Lena Levine (&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;Planned Parenthood News&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. Summer 1953, pg. 10).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You might also be happy to note that you are paying the salaries of Secular Humanists and Marxist professors with your tax dollars and tuition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to David Richardson there were 10,000 Marxist professors on America's campuses as of 1982 ("Marxism in U.S. Classrooms" &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;U.S. News and World Report&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. January 25, 1982, pp. 42-5).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Georgie Anne Geyer states that "the percentage of Marxist faculty numbers can range from an estimated 90 percent in some midwestern universities" ("Marxism Thrives on Campus" &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;The Denver Post&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. August 29, 1989, pg. 7).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On a brighter note (not really), Humanists out number the Marxists as a whole and they have goals too: "We aim to have students make explicit their own and others' implicit ideas about the way the world is or should be. Like artisans creating a mold out of the earth's supplies, we learn that our minds put the infinite mass of what is going on into an order; we relate parts to each other and create a whole structure. Thereafter, we use this structure like a template that forever determines what we perceive and how we evaluate, decide, and act upon it. &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;By focusing educational content &lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;upon&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;em&gt; our&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; ordering, relating, and structuring processes, we can expose the template, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;making them available for restructuring&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; as we evolve into better artisans" (R.M. Lauer and M. Hussay, "A New Way to Become Educated" &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;The Humanist&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. Jan./Feb/ 1986, pg 5 – emph. added).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ohhhhhh you thought you sent your children off to school to learn to read, write, and do math and all the while the majority of the teachers "expose the template" of humanism on them so they are "available for restructuring" into the humanist worldview. When are we going to stop being in denial and wake up?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-2502125946397056789?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/2502125946397056789/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=2502125946397056789' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/2502125946397056789'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/2502125946397056789'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2008/04/what-you-child-learned-in-school-today.html' title='What Your Child Learned in School Today'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-2309454484586028026</id><published>2008-04-25T11:49:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-04-25T11:49:28.455-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Philanswers: My moderating policy</title><content type='html'>Amen Phil...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://philanswers.blogspot.com/2008/04/my-moderating-policy.html#links"&gt;Philanswers: My moderating policy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-2309454484586028026?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://philanswers.blogspot.com/2008/04/my-moderating-policy.html#links' title='Philanswers: My moderating policy'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/2309454484586028026/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=2309454484586028026' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/2309454484586028026'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/2309454484586028026'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2008/04/philanswers-my-moderating-policy.html' title='Philanswers: My moderating policy'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2762528875327624555.post-6342206656854334618</id><published>2008-04-24T16:50:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-04-27T16:07:39.963-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Worship'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Comment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Instrumental Music'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='church of Christ'/><title type='text'>A LONG Response to a Comment</title><content type='html'>This is a response to an anonymous commenter or this post &lt;a href="http://www.calebohara.com/2008/04/jw-mcgarveys-advice-on-fellowship.html"&gt;http://www.calebohara.com/2008/04/jw-mcgarveys-advice-on-fellowship.html&lt;/a&gt;. Move over there for the full comment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr(s). Anonymous who uses Charter internet and lives somewhere near Riverbank, California has just been itching for a response. In fact, he/she is our most frequent visitor since he/she posted this comment. Please just bookmark the site instead of searching for "preacher caleb" on Google everytime. Or just remember CALEB OHARA and then don't put the space. So here goes…&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First of all I’m not sure if I should debate this non-debate debate? You said, “I am not here to debate you, because I feel that debating is wrong because it is never done in love. But, here I go...” I’m slightly confused on this one, “I’m not here to debate… here I go” - ???? You state that “I feel debating is wrong because it IS NEVER DONE IN LOVE” (Emph. Added). Never? Ever? Not once? Question – how do you know that it’s not done in love? I’m content to allow the judging of men’s hearts to God alone. Perhaps you have been given a privilege to see into men’s hearts that I’m not aware of. Apparently Paul, Barnabas, and the entire church in Jerusalem didn’t “love” because they “debated” (Acts 15:2, 7). Enough of this… you and I both know that the exchange of thoughts is not wrong and never will be wrong. The only way it could be wrong is if a man has a bad heart and you and I both know only God can judge the heart. And even men with bad hearts can proclaim the correct message! (cf. Jonah, Philippians 1:12-18). This whole Postmodernism jargon of not “debating” and then engaging in the most heated debate is designed to present oneself in a better light then the one who is being debated. To do this is to do the very thing that you are condemning (cf. Romans 2:17-24). So let’s put a nail in this one from the start. Had Paul not debated with the Jews they never would have come to know Christ. How terrible he was for not loving!!! Know this that just because I’m debating back the points you are debating from my blog doesn’t mean it’s not in love – I guarantee you that it is (unless you have some kind of window into my heart that I don’t know about and you can tell me otherwise????).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secondly you said, “I, too, was raised in the Churches of Christ and am very familiar with all of your reasoning in scripture.” Wow that’s pretty amazing. Because you were raised in what you call “the Churches of Christ” you are “very familiar” will “all” of my “reasoning in Scripture.” This tries to assert that it is impossible to have genuine original thoughts and reasoning outside of circumstances. Just because two individuals are engage in the same circumstances does not mean that the same outcome is determined. This type of postmodern thinking (determinism) is seriously flawed. Your response is a witness to this fact. If it were the case that because someone is raised in an environment he MUST HAVE a certain type of reasoning you and I must think exactly alike, and from your message it is apparent that we do not. So toss that idea off the ship. It’s unfounded and quite frankly arrogant. I will also note that I do not accept your premise of “Churches of Christ,” but that is a discussion for later.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thirdly you said, “But, if I could, in love as God tells us to, just tell you about my journey with instruments.” Ummmmmmmmmm did I miss the Scripture that says we are supposed to tell everyone about “my journey with instruments.” I’m assuming you must mean that we are supposed to speak to people in love. Very true, and sometimes the truth hurts like when Jesus told the Rich Young Ruler, out of love (Mark 10:21), that he had to go and sell all he had and give it to the poor to follow Christ. I guess it’s possible for people to say hard things that demand massive changes in life because of sin and still do it in love – very good to know! We agree on this because the Bible says it!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fourthly you said: “I know that the use of instruments is a big deal in the Churches of Christ. And, I also know exactly what scriptures you would give me if I disagree with you. I am a third generation, maybe more, on both sides of my family, a Church of Christ member, or should I say, was.” Christ is very concerned for His church - He loves her (Ephesians 5:25)! If Christ speaks on worship it’s a big deal to me (John 4:1ff). So for you to say that worship is a big deal to Christ’s church I would agree with you that it’s a big deal to Christ. It would be a huge help to me if you explain where you get this power to “know exactly” what I’m going to say. That truly is remarkable. What about my friend Kenny. He is the only one in his family that is a member of Christ’s church. If he debates it with you does that mean he won’t have prejudices that he can’t avoid because his upbringing was different from mine? If that’s what it will take I will by all means ask him to respond to your questions. Oh wait wait... how about John Price. He is a graduate of Trinity Ministerial Academy and he is currently the minister at Grace Baptist Chruch in Rochester, New York. He says (now he has no "Church of Christ" upbringing and he is not even a minister of one), "If the Word of God alone is our guide in this matter, we cannot escape the conclusion that musical instruments in Christian worship are a violation of the regulative principle. To bring them into the church is to transgress the authority of Christ in His worship" (&lt;em&gt;Old Light on New Worship&lt;/em&gt; Avinger, TX: Simpson Publishing Company, 2005). Let’s cut with the story telling of our lineage and get down to what the Text says. Please understand I really am saying this out of love but in all honestly I don’t care about your upbringing or mine; I care what the text SAYS! It truly saddens me that you have left Christ and His church that He died for (Ephesians 5:25). Please understand I know what your implying with “Church of Christ” but that implication is unfounded and I refuse to accept man’s terms… just sticking with what the Word says.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fifthly you said: “So, i took my Greek/Hebrew dictionary and looked up every word in the two verses that we use to support the view of "instrumental sin." Every word except hymn has the word instrument in it. At first, that scared me because that is what i was taught all of my life: fear. So, i prayed like crazy and asked that God would open up my heart and not allow me to cling to prejudices that I was taught, but what He wanted me to see.” Great! We agree that words matter. Not only that you are appealing to Greek sources as proof as to why God is pleased with instrumental music in worship to Him. Could you give me the verses you are speaking of and the words along with documentation of the sources that prove this point? You can email them to me if you wish I will look them up. When you say “instrumental sin” I’m not sure what you mean. How do you define sin? And how do you define “instrumental sin.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’m glad you were taught fear. Fear of God is imperative to being a follower of God (Gen 20:11, 2 Sam 23:3; Neh 5:15; Job 4:5; 2 Cor 7:1), and the lack of fear of God is a great sin (Psa 36:1; Rom 3:18). The wise man Solomon summed up all of life when he said, “the conclusion of the whole matter is to fear God and keep his commandments” (Ecclesiastes 12:13). Perhaps Nadab and Abihu would have been much better off if they had more fear for the Lord (Lev 10:1ff). I guess God messed up when he took Ananias and Sapphira’s life because it brought fear upon all the church (Acts 5:11) – nahhhhh I don’t think so. The list goes on and on – 2 Cor 5:11; 7:11, 15; Eph 5:21; 6:5; Phil 2:12; Heb 4:1; 1 Pet 1:17; 2:17; Jude 1:23. Please note that the Scriptures make a clear tie between obedience and fear. Without Godly fear disobedience is sure to follow. So hopefully I can help put the fear of God back in you!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You were taught prejudices? Terrible thing! Christ has the same problem. He was taught the prejudice of Judaism when he was a child. He was even so prejudice as to say He was the only way to the Father! You know Timothy had the same problem too. Paul suffered the same problem because he wrote that there was only one church (Eph 4:4; 1:22-23). Oh yeah, and Moses, man that guy was so prejudice he ended up killing a man! Just because you are taught something does not imply that you do not have the truth. Yes it’s true you can be taught a lie and be prejudiced towards the lie. But it is likewise true that you can be told the truth and be prejudiced towards it. Usually when people use the word “prejudice” they think that it is a very negative thing. Prejudice is neither right nor wrong in and of itself. It’s what has shaped it and sustains it that matters. All deeply held beliefs become prejudices, in the sense you are using the word, so are we not supposed to have deeply held beliefs? Ahhhh another problem that postmodernism is trying to assert into our thinking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sixthly you said: “This thought kept coming up in my mind. If instruments are a sin in worship, then they are a sin ALL of the time. Our lives should be a worship to God, not just on Sunday mornings, nights and Wednesday nights. If I believe that God doesnt like instruments in worship then He wouldn't like them at all; at any time in our lives.” First I would like to point out that your thinking began with your thoughts “This thought kept coming up in my mind.” This is a serious problem. This is one of the first steps towards exchanging the truth of God for a lie (Rom 1:20-25). Naaman had this problem too he said, “Behold I thought” (2 Kings 5:11). The problem is what Naaman thought wasn’t what God was saying.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You state “If instruments are a sin in worship, then they are sin ALL of the time.” Is it ok to be naked at any time in front of a person? I would hope you will say yes to this. Is it a sin to show up in the worship assembly naked? I would hope you will say yes to this. Your syllogistic argument has some major problems. There are things you can do in the privacy of your bedroom that would be sin to do in public, or worship for that matter. Just as there are things you can do when you are not worshiping that you can’t do when you worship. Your thought that kept coming up is not based upon Scripture. You took the wrong fork in the road on this one and I hope your prejudice of mind can be changed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This whole concept of everything in life is worship has no biblical basis. Jesus made Clear in John 4 that there is a right way and wrong way to worship God (John 4:23-24). He also said that worship is not constrained by location. If you are worshiping God in your car and you are not doing it according to truth then it’s not acceptable to God. So the Scriptures agree that it does not just pertain to certain times in the worship assembly, but anytime you worship. The problem is not everything you do in life is worship. Worship involves intent. The word worship (proskuneo) literally means to kiss towards. Worship is intentional and directed. Last time I mowed the lawn it wasn’t directed to God. Last time I ate my dinner it wasn’t directed towards God. In everything I do I want my life to be acceptable to God, but it’s not all worship. Abram understand this when he said, “Stay here with the donkey, and I and the lad will go over there; and we will worship and return to you” (Gen 22:5). In a sense our lives are to be in service to God like worship is a service to God, however, just because all worship is service to God does not make all service worship. If everything is worship then worship is nothing at all. A word that means everything means nothing. In fact, if everything in life was worship Jesus’ whole conversation with the woman at the well is pointless.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You also said, “If I believe that God doesnt like instruments in worship then He wouldn't like them at all; at any time in our lives.” If I believe that God doesn’t like sex outside of marriage then He wouldn’t like it at all; at any time in our lives. This creates a problem. A big problem… the good thing it is humanly created and therefore can be changed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Seventhly you said, “If instruments are a sin, then why are "harpists playing their harps" in Heaven in Revelation 14:2?” Revelation 14:2 says that “the voice which I heard was like the sound of harpists playing on their harps.” The text clearly says that it was THE VOICE! It is a fundamental mistake to try and go to a book that is apocalyptic (figurative in nature) and try to pull something out and make it literal. Is there really a red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and on his heads seven diadems (Rev 12:3)? Besides, if heaven is material in nature and it literally has harps, God has every right to tell us He wants to be worshiped that way when we get there! At different times in human history God has accepted and then rejected different types of worship. God accepted animal sacrifices in worship from patriarchs. Then in history God demanded that only priests could offer animal sacrifices. Today He won’t accept any animal sacrifices as worship. God demanded worship come from a certain place but now the location doesn’t matter (John 4:20ff). So if God changes what He wants as worship in Heaven I am all for it, but that by no means justifies me doing it now here on earth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eighthly you said, “And, why is Jesus going to come with the "sound of a trumpet"? 1 Cor. 15:52.” The text does not directly say but it seems pretty evident that it is to announce His coming. And I’m failing to see what this has to do with worship. Are we supposed to raise the dead in worship too? If you want to use a trumpet to get peoples attention, then by all means do it!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ninthly you said, “I dont think that you HAVE to use instruments, but I would be careful to condemn people who do.” What does God think? And if all those words you said mean to use instruments how could God command them and then not care if you use them? It’s good for you not to condemn people. Only God condemns. It would be good, however, to make good judgments over right and wrong and when someone is doing something that is right or wrong.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tenthly you said, “I would urge you to just study it again.” DONE… your turn!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a good chance that I know who wrote this anonymous comment. So let me give you an open invitation to sit down and look at the text together anytime you want. Please note my use of satire and humor at times to illustrate a point. If there is a sincere desire in your heart to know what the Text says then you and I are in the same boat! Perhaps we can help each other come to know Him better!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would also like to conclude by noting that I didn't say anything about Instumental Music in my post.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sow the Seed,&lt;br /&gt;Caleb&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='http://res1.blogblog.com/tracker/2762528875327624555-6342206656854334618?l=www.calebohara.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/6342206656854334618/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2762528875327624555&amp;postID=6342206656854334618' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/6342206656854334618'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2762528875327624555/posts/default/6342206656854334618'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.calebohara.com/2008/04/long-response-to-comment.html' title='A LONG Response to a Comment'/><author><name>The O'Hara Family</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00545999921978371250</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>1</thr:total></entry></feed>